Awards & Decorations of the World

again gaston some great new additions

interesting that your bear one seems to come off a walking stick. mine is exactly the same from a walking stick

Hi der-hase-fee,

As i understand it right your tinnie from 1925 is a local tinnie from the area of Unter-Weser, were a SHB day was held. The tinnie is called "frontsoldatentag" as it was just that: a SHB day as there were many others over the years. I havent seen that tinnie and like it very much. We have a long way to go with finding all tinnies that were handed out. Each time new local ones keep showing up. Just great

Where it gets confusing is with all those names like "frontsoldatentag", "reichsfrontsoldatentag", etc

If we keep Wim Saris very helpfull overview from two pages back at hand we see the RFST days that were held:


Quote:
1.Frontsoldatentag, March 14,1920 at Magdeburg. Was just a meeting as there was the period of prohibition;
2. ibid , January 17, 1921 at Magdeburg (as before);
3. ibid , January 14, 1922 at Magdeburg
4. ibid , January 18, 1923 at Magdeburg, also during a prohibition and for that reason it was known as the Reichsgründungsfeier;
5. Fronsoldatentag, January 19 and 20, 1924 at Magdeburg, simultaneously the Gautag Magdeburg was held;
6. Frontsoldatentag, January 17-18, 1925;

7. first actual Reichsfrontsoldatentag, the first one held outside of Magdeburg (see above);
8. RFST, Berlin. May 8 and 9, 1927;
9. RFST, Hamburg. June 2 and 3, 1928;
10. RFST, München. June 1 and 2, 1929;
11. RFST, Koblenz. Octoer 4 and 5, 1930;
12. RFST, Breslau. May 30 and 31, 1931;
13. RFST, Berlin (second time). September 3 and 4, 1932;
14. RFST, which was the Stahlhelmtag 1934, held at Hannover (see earlier posts).


What i don't completely understand and hope that Wim can shed some light on is the following:

-1 The 1927 badge i posted on the previous page says Reichsfrontsoldatentag 1927 and is from Berlin 7-8 May. On the above list this is mentioned as RFST 1927 Berlin 8 and 9 May? Now, am i overseeing something or is this actually indeed a 1927 RFST tinnie? Wim?

-2 The paper tinnie from 1925 i posted says "VI frontsoldatentag" 1925, and is from 16,17,18,19 January in Magdeburg. Again this corresponds with the list above.



My humble theory is that the 1925 tinnie is a paper tinnie that could be obtained on the frontsoldatenmeeting 1925 self, by making a small donation for the SHB! (If you look carefully you can make out on the stamp the word "Steuer", this translates i think like something as a small donation?) Im not sure if at later years participants would simply recieve the RFST tinnies for attending the SHB RFST, or had to make a donation and then recieve their tinnies, but clearly in 1925 there was this paper tinnie as at least a commemorative tinnie for the sixth 1925 RFST! Even it was a tinnie that was only allowed to be worn on the frontsoldatentag 1925.



Now i don't mind at this point the official regulations for WEARING the badges (on the day self on the uniform, afterwards on the hat), but want to make a total overview of all available badges of all RFST's. In this light i think my 1925 and 1927 tinnies both fit in the above overview list with dates and events. Again, am i overseeing something or don't think correctly? I'd love to learn more on this and so do perhaps a few others as well. This is a very good topic so far!

best regards,
Gaston

ps: with proof of a 1925 paper tinnie we can now start dreaming of at least also a 1926 badge and perhaps even a 1924...How interesting would that be!

Hi Wim,

Thanks for clearing that. After your reply on the previous page on the 1927 badge i was a bit confused if the badge was a real RFST badge or just a day tinnie. Now we know it was an official one, but it was only not allowed to be worn at a later date.

After going throught the whole topic again and keeping the allowance to WEAR the badges in mind an other theory sprung to mind: As from 1928 on (9. RFST, Hamburg. June 2 and 3, 1928) badges were allowed to be worn on the headgear, this might explain why the 1927 badges are so often found with holes in them. They often come from walking sticks and this probably can be explained by the same regulations not to wear them on the hat? Maybe this is why they were added to the walking sticks? This way they could still somewhat proudly be worn?

The badges from before 1927 are indeed likely to have been of the paper-kind, of course these were much more fragile and could not be added to other objects.