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 Post subject: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Hi All,

This has been QUITE a week, so many new questions too? But, this is SO new to me, I wanna go find out more before I start asking Image But 2 things, I cant find anywhere. I hope any of you know a bit more? Vormingsbladen, for english-speakers, consists of "vorming" and "bladen". With "bladen" being "magazines", sorta, but in an elite way. More like "periodicals". And "vorming", means "education", which seems sorta correct, but is too loosely as a translation, these are more like "molding" or "shaping" periodicals, making people aware of traditions, the germanic people, what they should stand for, fight for, how to take care of yourself + others, but ONLY others that are germanic like you. It deals with art, poetry, stories, columns but also physical care, how to eat properly, science, tradition, history, future and so on.

About SS Vormingsbladen; I dont know how or where they differ from WA or NSB Vormingsbladen? But I DO know, they're sorta made like the German SS Vormingsbladen. I dont know how these are called, but, no matter. All sortsa fun stuff to learn about these! And about Nachenius, and his ideas, and, wow, actualy READING these Vormingsbladen is awesome!

So, OK, 1st thing; I'm reading 2 opinions;
1 = these SS Vormingsbladen were distributed to SS members.
2 = these SS Vormingsbladen were distributed to SS Begunstigende Leden (Fördernde Mitglieder were called that in Holland, fördernd for Dutch SS ofcourse).
Which opinion is right?

2nd question is, actually, about that little "2" in the 3rd pic? Both Vormingsbladen have this on the cover. Now, 1 is from lentemaand 1941, the other from Sprokkelmaand 1943. Look at both dates in pic 2? Both have the "2" there too? Now, february + march, as these months are nowadays called, are NOT the same months. BUT, somewhere WAY back in time, there WAS no Sprokkelmaand. So, did the Dutch SS go so far back in their folklore and traditions, as to skip the 2nd month as well, making both the 2nd + 3rd month the 2nd month? And, if so, WHY use the names, and not the number for it? Do I make sense? What does that "2" mean? Is it just coincidentally both a different month, but both the 2nd periodical to be published that year?

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:22 pm 
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Yes the years and the editions are different. Not necessarily did number 2 of 1943 get published the same month ans number 2 from 1941.

More on this topic tomorrow or later this week, need to catch up on 2 days (and nights ) of sleep.

Do i see a corner of a NSB buttenhole triangle in that last picture? You;re going fast! these booklets are great stuff!

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
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Gaston Image HEY!

Thought you were on holiday? Anyway, no, please, take your time! You have a terrific week to recover from ... The NSB buttonhole-thingy, ooohw its MARVELLOUS! Yes, its been an "involving" week last week, not as big as yours, but, translated to "my league", maybe also VERY big, and today, gosh ... but, no, all in good time. Anyway, I'm rambling. Just wanted to say "hi" and "no hurry" Image Actually, she's nodding the wrong way there? But you know what I mean *LOL*

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
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To get back of your first question;The Vormingsbladen were only for use in "dienstverband in de SS (in duty of SS),BUT from number 9 of 1944 on,all books could be bought by everyone who wants it.The name then changed in SS-Vormingsbladen voor Nederland.You could have an abonnement or just buy 1 book for F0,50.

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
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patrickh wrote:
To get back of your first question;The Vormingsbladen were only for use in "dienstverband in de SS (in duty of SS)...


Hi Patrick,

THANKS! So, OK, you wouldn't see 1 of these near a BL SS pin? Begunstigers where not really in dienstverband, or, am I wrong? They had to follow same rules + requirements as "real" Dutch SS.

patrickh wrote:
...BUT from number 9 of 1944 on,all books could be bought by everyone who wants it.The name then changed in SS-Vormingsbladen voor Nederland.You could have an abonnement or just buy 1 book for F0,50...


Image "an abonnement" You're Dutch too! Yay! Maybe a foolish question? But, was there a difference in what the magazine looked like or wrote after number 9/1944? The editing was still done by Nachenius, so, maybe he tried to make more money with the magazine by commercializing?

Anyway, thanks again Patrick!

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
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You could definately put a SS-BL pin next to a formingsbooklet for displaying. Dutch SS-BL members recieved the monthly formingsbooklet with their membership.

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
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You could definately put a SS-BL pin next to a formingsbooklet for displaying. Dutch SS-BL members recieved the monthly formingsbooklet with their membership.


Ah! OK, thanks Gaston! I also found out, HOW I figured an Oranje-Blanje-Bleu would be related to SS? The dutch SS volunteers, got an Prinsenvlag shield Aufnäher on the arm, and/or a NSB Wolfsangel. Still, does that "justify" me thinking that the pin in the pics could have been worn by SS, or sympathizers?

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Send you a pm about it....

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Awesome Image THANKS SO VERY MUCH Gaston Image

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 Post subject: Re: Vormingsbladen der Germaansche SS
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Yep,a lot of dutch members here too!Indeed the paper did look different from number 9-1944 on,they were red instead of black with the swastika on it too:


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